October 20, 2003

  • Warm wind whips the trees
    Leaves swirling around the roots
    Happy craziness.

    10.20.03

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    Someone had written that they were considering joining the military, and I replied with a response including some of the reasons I wouldn’t and general thoughts on the subject.

    Some of the reasons had to do with our foreign policy, some with what happens to soldiers that end up fighting.

    The person’s response basically stated that our messed up foreign policy and the risks of war wouldn’t stop them from supporting our soldiers.

    I agree that we need to support our soldiers.

    My anger is that our country doesn’t.

    When the VA medical questions to my friend (Marine, desert storm vet) and his wife included whether or not his semen burned her, and when 67% of children born to vets from that war had significant illnesses or birth defects but yet our congress cuts medical and death benefits and our president signs those cuts, it makes me wonder how much our country supports our soldiers.

    When I have run into far, far too many homeless who are vets of Vietnam, and more recently, Desert Storm and realize that while these people were given basic training to enable them to be among the best soldiers in the world, they were never given the post conflict care they needed to turn them back into civilians, it makes me wonder how much our country supports our soldiers.

    I will never forget when we started mobilizing troops to Iraq. I was waiting for a friend to exit the restroom at Keegan’s Pub after they’d kicked everyone out and there was a young man with a buzz cut and something on his mind who came up to me and asked me what I thought of the war.

    He pretty obviously had something on his mind, I was a bit nervous that I might be about to get in a situation for being an “unpatriotic traitor” for not supporting our president’s charge, but I’ve never one not to say what I mean and stand behind it, so I told him, albeit as politely as possible.

    At that point, he just about broke down.

    The kid was a tank commander who had just been mobilized. He had joined the military under Clinton to help him pay for college. He knew he might be called into something, but I don’t think he ever thought that he might end up being pulled into a full scale war. He hated it, he didn’t believe in it, and he was left with the choice of going AWOL or going to die or kill for something he thought was wrong. (Actually, I think he was already AWOL, but if he made base by morning, it wasn’t going to be that big of a deal.)

    It was tough to watch, tough to give advice. It was also tough to hear people blow it off later by saying “he signed on the dotted line, he knew what he was getting into, the army’s not a free ride”.

    True enough, but I think that a lot of young men and women still believe that this country has enough sanity and enough checks and balances that it provides a safety net so that they will not be misused.

    I’ve seen too much to the contrary to believe that. The hippies in the 60′s may have disgraced themselves by mistreating soldiers, but that is nothing compared to how our society as a whole has thrown them in the gutter when they come back and aren’t able to instantly reintegrate.

    Wanting to support our soldiers is not only a noble sentiment, it is a practical one.

    The biggest support they are going to need is when they come home. A lot of them are going to come home from an extended stay in a hostile environment where they have little practical way of discerning friend from foe. If they make the wrong guess at any instant – either way – something bad will happen. They’re going to be coming back, unless something changes drastically, into a rough economy where even many of those who are doing well psychologically are having trouble getting along. My prediction is that in 5 years, we’ll be seeing a whole new crop of homeless vets – a whole new generation of soldiers who served and then were let down.

    The other day, I was thinking about this and it occurred to me. Soldiers have basic training to teach them how to be soldiers. Basic training serves to train not only the body but the mind, to turn an uncertain and independent teenager into a soldier who knows exactly what to do, when to do it, and understand the importance of following orders. They are also surrounded by a support structure. They don’t have to worry about what to do – you get up when it is time to get up. You eat when it is time to eat. You train when it is time to train. You sleep when it is time to sleep. You have a huge team of people who you know have your back. You have the strongest family anyone could ever imagine.

    For those that go into non-combat positions, that will start to adjust into a more “normal” lifestyle. For those destined to go under fire, it becomes all the more intense.

    And then, for those who aren’t lifers, they’re done. Back on the street. Some basic assistance finding jobs, some ability to go to college, but that’s really it. None of the structure, none of the support.

    Some of them can easily switch back, they remember or relearn how to be a civilian and are often amazingly driven and successful people.

    Some of them can’t. It is as difficult for them to make the shift into a civilian life as it would be for Joe Average to suddenly jump into the military.

    So, how about this?

    Basic Detraining.

    Put just as much effort into developing the psychology of how to turn a soldier into a civilian as went into developing a civilian into a soldier.

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    The reply to my response also suggested that if politics bothers me so much, I should get involved and change things.

    *heh*

    Well, I’m certainly not involved enough, or as much as I want to be.

    I talk, I listen, I go to meetings, I attend forums, I support the rare candidate I like by spreading their name around, capital contributions, and occasionally phone bank, I read, I research, and some day I’d very much like to run for office.

    One downside — I’m “unelectable”. While my platform may differ from theirs, like Kuchinich or Nader or Pentel I am unelectable (ok, granted, Kuchinich as accomplished incredible things) because I’m against mega-corporations and doubly against government support of them. An additional “ding” – who the hell am I? I don’t have the credibility of any of those guys. And I have long hair.

    The other thing is while I have a lot of strong beliefs, my “platform” still fluctuates all over the place as I consider different ideas and situations.

    Socialist Libertarian? Anarchist Green? Progressive? Traditional Conservative?

    I know some parts of it:

    • I want a small government whose main purposes are to
      • protect us from each other
      • to protect us from outside forces
      • to provide basic infrastructure
      • to facilitate domestic and foreign trade without undue interference.
        • I want strong environmental protections to insure that future generations inherit at least as many resources as we did.
        • I do not want corporations to have more rights than people. (Actually, I don’t want corporations to have any rights. A corporation is a legal contract between a group of people – the people have rights, the contract shouldn’t.)
        • I want to make a reasonable standard of living available to those who can and do work.
        • I want a reasonable safety net for those who can’t work and for the children of those who won’t.
        • I want our country to be a global citizen rather than a global bully heading towards dictator.
        • I want an electoral system that encourages participation and ensures that minority viewpoints still have a voice.
        • I want the government to stay out of an individuals choice’s of how they live their life – be it religion, sexuality, self-destructive lifestyle choices, etc.
        • I know that I want our legal system to be based on rehabilitation and compensation for damages

        One of the more radical ideas I have is the belief that religious law should be allowed in all extremes as long as the subjects of that law are adults who are willingly members of that religion and have the freedom to change religions. That means that if you are a fundamentalist Muslim and agree to be subject to Shahira law, or a fundamentalist Christian who agrees to be subject to the laws of Revelations, so be it, it is your choice.

        Three big areas I don’t know how to deal with are kids, those who can but don’t work, and those who become unable to work because of extremely poor choices.

        If a parent is a member of a religion that says that their daughters and sons should have their genitals mutilated, should we allow it? (as a side note, it is interesting that we are comfortable with circumcision but not comfortable with any changes to a girl’s privates). My answer is “no”, but then, how about spanking? How about schooling? How about all the various parental rights issues?

        How do we handle the situation where someone just sits around and reads or watches TV and refuses to work? Are we comfortable with them rotting on the sidewalks or do we want to provide an option? Will that option be too coercive?

        How do we handle irrecoverable drug addicts, or someone who got a sexual thrill out of having their hands amputated and now can’t work, or someone who attempted suicide and is now a paraplegic but now wishes to live.

        Once I come up with an answer to those, it has to work when considering people who get injured doing extreme sports, or motorcycling without gear, etc. Is there a line? Where? How does it work?

        Another area is how to provide basic services without creating bureaucratic monstrosities.

        Anyway, based on all that, is there a party that I fit in?

        And, since some of those are pretty radical differences, what are the baby steps?

        And how do I pay the mortgage while I’m trying to answer those questions and get elected and make all that happen?

        Anyway, enough rambling. Back to work.

Comments (4)

  • Circumcision has proven medical benifits, including hygine and pleasure. It is also done almost exclusively to infants, not 12 year olds. Female genital cutting (FGC) is used to decrease a woman’s sensitivity during sex so she won’t become promiscuous (Gods forbid women enjoy sex), or to sew the vaginal opening shut to prevent sex from occuring. The only one allowed to open the woman up is her husband, but then she is sewn shut again after each coupling. The first is about health. The second is about control. Think about it. Of course FGC upsets people, especially women! Let me chop an inch off penises everywhere and then sew mens’ penises up inside their bodies so y’all can’t use them and we’ll see how long it takes the UN to outlaw it under human rights laws.

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    Just because I don’t agree with the government’s use of power, it’s total desertion of deactivated soldiers, and it’s misplaced ideas of “helping” other countries… doesn’t mean that I’m against soldiers. Millions of people agree with me that our soldiers need support, and the military needs an ass whooping. All I’m saying is that I feel I can best support the people dying for this country by joining them and helping them get through it however I can. If your idea of support is getting intelligent people elected and being angry, go for it.

  • um, Government needs an ass whooping. Not the military. Thinking too fast again. Oops.

  • I gotta kind of disagree with you on the male circumcision thing. On hygiene, you’re correct to an extent (although teaching the kids to wash works too, but that might lead to masturbation). I definitely disagree with you regarding pleasure – the foreskin serves a number of purposes that improve sex – skin that slides to an extent is a useful addition to natural lubrication, and there are a lot of nerves in that little flap of skin.

    Male circumcision in some cultures is also a rite of puberty and it is not uncommon for it to result in death due to bleeding in those cases.

    The forms of female genital mutilation you describe are certainly horrible as is clitorectamy which you allude to.

    There are other forms that I can’t see as being too much different than male circumcision (which I do consider a mutilation) such as removal of the clitoral hood or labia. Flaps and folds of sensitive flesh which serve more subtle purposes and which, to me, should be the person who owns the body’s right to choose whether or not they have them.

    These were the aspects I was thinking of more in my post – I think if a parent in America decided to have the clitoral hood or outer labia of their infant removed (if that is possible at that age), it would likely provoke some serious response.

    As to the military, if it is a choice you make, please be aware that you may be called upon to fight and you may be called upon to kill. Whether or not the war is just will not be for you to determine, and whether or not you believe it to be so, you will have your duty.

    Too many people do not realize the import of that until the decisions are done.

    Unethical orders can be questioned, and soldiers are required to refuse “unlawful orders”, however, that can be very difficult after being fully trained.

    As an army special forces (some subset of the rangers) friend of mine once explained it to me (paraphrased): You have to follow the chain of command – you do not have enough information to make a decision, and if you do not follow your orders, you’ll get other soldiers killed. You don’t question the ethics, you don’t question what it looks like – you don’t have enough time or enough information. If you’re going to spend time deciding whether an order is “right or wrong”, you’re going to get someone killed and you don’t belong there.

    Granted, that’s special forces and a guy that was into some pretty heavy stuff, but that training starts in basic.

  • I can’t believe I read that entire message.  Nice to be alive again, wish you well.

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